Finding Our Place In the Sun

FullSizeRenderWay back in 2011, Brett and I both independently came to a realization that we didn’t want to stay in Portland after he retired. We had lived in Portland for nearly 20 years at that point, and while we had put down deep roots and there was much we loved about the city and the Pacific Northwest, he and I had both grown very tired of the dreary winters and wanted to live someplace where we could enjoy the sun a bit more consistently. While we loved all the green that came with Portland, we were both weary of hibernating all winter, of having to go to work and school in the rain, and of everything else that came along with all the cold and damp.

So, we decided to create a list of priorities to help us choose where we might relocate, and came up with the following:

  • Weather (lots of sunshine)
  • Cost of living
  • Schools (because two out of three girls would still be in high school)
  • Ocean nearby
  • Mountains close by (less than a day’s drive)
  • Western U.S. (proximity to Japan)
  • Sizable Asian population (our girls are ethnically Chinese)
  • Military facilities nearby

We initially didn’t weight any of these as more important than the others, except for the weather, and other than the weather we didn’t consider any one item to be a deal killer on its own.  I’m an ocean person but Brett loves the mountains and wanted opportunities for hiking. Although we really hadn’t had anything to do with the military since Brett’s retirement from the navy in 1992 other than renewing our ID cards, receiving retirement pay, and using the health insurance, we figured having military facilities nearby was something we might need or want to use as we grew older. Good schools and a sizable Asian population were important for the girls.

After that we came up with a list of sunny places that we would consider:

  • Several cities in Southern California
  • The Southwestern United States (Arizona & New Mexico)
  • Florida
  • Hawai’i

Hawai’i was on the list as a joke, because we knew there was NO WAY we could afford to move there. We also considered a couple of overseas locations, but the language and/or visa requirements were more than we wanted to take on. Texas, the Gulf Coast, and the South did not make the list. Finally, we created a spreadsheet to match the different places we had chosen with our “want list.”

Florida was the first to be removed from our list. We had lived in Florida while Brett was in the navy (Key West), and although it’s plenty sunny we had absolutely no desire to ever spend another summer there. Alligators and snakes were also a black mark. While there are some good schools in Florida, they are mainly in expensive neighborhoods that were out of our price range. Florida’s Asian population is negligible (1.7% of the entire state), and there were other things about Florida we just didn’t care for. Plus, it was a l-o-n-g way away from Japan.

The Southwest was eliminated next. It had many things going for it, except for the ocean thing, and the Asian thing again (3.4% of the population in AZ, 1.7% in NM). Plus, it’s very dry there, too dry for me actually, and it’s HOT. The Southwest wasn’t as far from Japan as Florida, but still not very close.

So that left southern California and Hawai’i on our list.

Can you tell what very important item was left off of that list of priorities? If you guessed taxes, you’ve guessed right! I grew up in southern California and there are many places there I could have happily retired to except . . . our retired income would have been eaten alive by state taxes. California already had a high cost of living strike against it, but the taxes, both income and sales, made it unaffordable.

And that left Hawai’i, our “joke” location.

But guess what? Hawai’i had beautiful weather, an ocean view every day and loads of beaches, mountains for hiking, easy access to Japan, a large Asian population, and close proximity to military facilities. It was also very tax friendly for retirees, especially those receiving government, state or non-contributory pensions (which would be us). Seven out of nine items on our list of priorities gave it a very high score. Hawai’i! Who could have guessed?

Cost of living and schools remained BIG issues though, as did the state’s isolated location, but we figured if Hawai’i had everything else we wanted, then we could figure out how to work around those issues. We began researching the state, decided which island we wanted to live on, and eventually which school we wanted our daughters to attend (we actually wanted them to attend a private school, but after a tour they nixed that in favor of the public school, which turned out to be the right decision). We asked lots of questions, read forums, and tried to learn as much as we could from long-time residents and successful transplants about dealing with cost-of-living and other issues unique to living in Hawai’i, and made sure to add travel expenses as part of our budget.

After a nearly three-week vacation/research trip in 2012, Hawai’i was no longer a joke. We committed ourselves, and less than two years later, after much downsizing and planning, we made our move. We came to Kaua’i with no expectations other than we’d enjoy beautiful weather and see the ocean every day. Everything else we decided to let unfold in its own time to let us know if we’d made the right decision (or not) for our family.

Did we? I’d say yes, over and over and over. Kaua’i has provided everything we hoped it would, and more. Our oldest daughter returned to Oregon after six months on Kaua’i, and that has been the right move for her – she manages living on her own and going to school very well. But, WenYu and YaYu have thrived here, and are now very happy we came; they love our little island and the friends they’ve made here. We’ve pretty much figured out the whole cost-of-living thing, and our simple life these days actually lets us live on much less than we did back in Portland. Kaua’i is very lush and green, with flowers blooming and farmers’ markets open year round which make me very, very happy. I’ve been to Japan twice since we’ve been here, we’re going again next year, and our son and family have come to visit us here. We’ve all made trips back to the mainland, but discovered that there’s nothing as wonderful as coming home to Kaua’i.

10 thoughts on “Finding Our Place In the Sun

  1. While I wish you lived closer, in Southern California, we wouldn’t have met you and Brett since I found you when I Googled “move to Hawaii”. So I’ll have to settle for living nearby in another few years!


    1. Isn’t that it though? We’ve met wonderful people, and all sorts of good things have happened because we moved here instead of Southern California. I can’t wait until you get over here!!

      I honestly believe now that we wouldn’t have been happy in SoCal. We definitely couldn’t have afforded to live as close to the beach as we do here, even renting.


  2. It’s so neat to read this post and know how content you are, having “watched” this whole journey unfold (from waaaaaay back in the “Losing Days”)… Ho’omaika’i! 🙂


    1. It sure has been a journey. But a good one, and I’m grateful for all the changes that have come about because of it, and the lessons learned along the way. Thanks for being such a loyal reader!


  3. Ditto “MamieUtah”! We go back & forth on our retirement living location. For now, we’re reasonably committed to living in our area until the boys are done with high school, but then? No way would be pay the giant premium to live & also the taxes are really mind bending. I can’t quite decide if I’d be willing to move back to our previous location (near Seattle). It had a lot going for it, but . . .the weather. 😉 Hawaii remains on our list of top choices for at least part-time living in retirement!


    1. Well, I love following your progress as well!

      We were totally caught off-guard by the tax situation in California. Housing prices were bad enough, but add on the loss of income because of taxes and there was no way. I don’t know where we would have ended up, but these days it looks like we couldn’t have afforded to return to Portland either. Rents there have gone into the stratosphere. Because of the sources of our retirement income, we currently pay no state taxes in Hawai’i, which would not be true if we had to work here. Once we learned that we figured we could figure out how to deal with the cost of living.


  4. Ken and I are weighing many of the same factors. I love the SW, but feel incomplete without having a water source nearby. Living along a river in the west or SW is kinda risky. I think with both of our retirements, and a good budget we would be able to live in Hawaii year-round. Just not sure which island yet….


    1. If you are thinking of Hawai’i for retirement, a good book to get is So You Think You Want to Live in Hawaii? I don’t know how recently it’s been updated, but it’s still full of good information about living out here, and has chapters about each island. They are each so different, and there’s lots to consider before a move. Another good resource is the online forum City Data Hawaii. There are forums for each island, as well as overall Hawai’i topics. Many of the regular posters tend to be quite negative, but if you can read through them there’s lots of good information to be gleaned from the site.

      If you can swing it, I also recommend coming and staying for a while. We could only swing about three weeks, but it gave us time to look at food costs, driving distances, housing costs, and talk to lots of people, both local and transplant. We also looked at schools. After that we were pretty sure we could manage to make a go of it here.


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